Ever go out with someone...they break up with you...but then they keep talking to you.
Well, I had not talked to my ex girlfriend in a month, and then she decides to contact me on Easter. So I reply with "It's not good that you still like me."
And the craziness ensues. I will explain later.
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The Ex (3:09:39 PM): hey
The Ex (3:09:40 PM): what?
The Ex (3:09:42 PM): how are you?
ME (3:09:58 PM): great
ME (3:10:04 PM): i was clear
The Ex (3:11:03 PM): it's not that i didn't understand you, i was just kind of surprised that you said that, or confused
The Ex (3:11:16 PM): happy easter
ME (3:11:38 PM): it was meant to be the opposite
The Ex (3:11:57 PM): what was meant to be the opposite
ME (3:12:19 PM): look, dont worry about it
The Ex (3:15:01 PM): how's nj? your family?
ME (3:15:24 PM): ugh, ask me something more of substance
ME (3:15:29 PM): its always an interview
The Ex (3:17:53 PM): ...what have you been up to
ME (3:18:00 PM): hahaha
The Ex (3:18:23 PM): i mean, im really wondering. i don't know what else to ask?
ME (3:18:51 PM): have you ever read Notes from Underground?
The Ex (3:19:08 PM): no.
ME (3:19:19 PM): You really should...I'm going to.
ME (3:19:29 PM): It'll finish up your Dostoyevsky obsession
The Ex (3:19:50 PM): im really into some other books now
The Ex (3:20:06 PM): i love the hours, you should read it
The Ex (3:20:17 PM): they made a movie of it
The Ex (3:20:22 PM): and a passage to india
ME (3:20:23 PM): Possibly...I have a list I need to attack first
The Ex (3:22:58 PM): do you plan to come back to wake, or are you thinking of working or transfering somewhere else
ME (3:23:35 PM): Yeah, I worked everything out
The Ex (3:26:27 PM): good
The Ex (3:26:48 PM): i'm transfering to nyu (if i get in), and i'll be in london this summer
ME (3:27:07 PM): thats cool
The Ex went away at 3:32:06 PM.
ME (3:32:17 PM): its funny that you're still indecisive
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Auto Response from The Ex (3:32:18 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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The Ex (3:33:57 PM): about what?
ME (3:34:06 PM): everything
ME (3:34:14 PM): i can understand the still liking me thing
ME (3:34:17 PM): that ones obvious
ME (3:34:27 PM): but everything else just doesnt make sense to me
The Ex (3:35:00 PM): im sorry, what?
The Ex (3:35:04 PM): what are you referring to?
ME (3:35:18 PM): you, obviously
The Ex (3:35:36 PM): no, i meant, what did the "everything else" refer to
ME (3:35:41 PM): YOU
The Ex (3:35:57 PM): im indecisive about myself?
ME (3:36:09 PM): You, life, etc...
ME (3:36:36 PM): It's kinda cute...but you probably should outgrow that
The Ex (3:38:34 PM): wait, what did i do to indicate that i'm still indecisive, or gave you evidence that i am now, like you thought i was before (since you said it's funny that i still am)
ME (3:38:50 PM): I just know you
ME (3:39:02 PM): and you said some things to tip me off
The Ex (3:39:15 PM): tip you off?
The Ex (3:39:19 PM): what does that mean?
The Ex (3:39:22 PM): piss you off?
The Ex (3:39:28 PM): or made you believe i'm indecisive?
ME (3:39:30 PM): Pissed? Im not angry
The Ex (3:39:36 PM): i wasn't sure what the words meant
The Ex (3:39:41 PM): i'm not familiar with that expression
ME (3:39:52 PM): tip you off...indicated
ME (3:40:21 PM): The fact that you didnt just say "I am decisive" or "You're wrong" is more support anyway
The Ex (3:40:50 PM): huh
The Ex (3:40:57 PM): no, but i mean what made you said it to begin with
The Ex (3:41:11 PM): was it a test?
ME (3:41:25 PM): See, since you're interested...it's just more proof...and you're more worried
ME (3:41:27 PM): nothing's a test
The Ex (3:41:34 PM): i didn't say "you're wrong" because i'm not interested in proving you wrong or trying to get in an argument
The Ex (3:41:42 PM): im not worried
ME (3:41:53 PM): Haha ok that's fine
The Ex (3:42:09 PM): im just not interested in arguing, i don't feel the need to prove you wrong or agree w you
The Ex (3:42:26 PM): i just wanted to hear where you were coming from
The Ex (3:42:29 PM): so i could understand what you meant
The Ex (3:42:38 PM): but you haven't told me where you're coming from
ME (3:42:45 PM): And, you're instead tacitly agreeing with me
The Ex (3:42:59 PM): no i'm not
The Ex (3:43:12 PM): this is what i don't want, to disagree w you
The Ex (3:43:17 PM): i really just want to know where you're coming from
The Ex (3:43:33 PM): and if i say nothing, you accuse me of agreeing w you, so i'm forced to disagree w you, which i don't feel like doing
ME (3:43:54 PM): That's fine... disagreement is healthy anyway...cause you could've just presented your side and it wouldve lead to a discussion
The Ex (3:44:18 PM): i can't present my side
The Ex (3:44:21 PM): w/o your side
The Ex (3:44:30 PM): for some reason, you won't tell me what you're talking about
The Ex (3:44:40 PM): i can't disagree with you when i don't know what you're talking about
ME (3:44:40 PM): I was incredibly clear
The Ex (3:44:46 PM): no
The Ex (3:44:54 PM): i asked, what made you say it to begin with
The Ex (3:45:00 PM): and you have yet to tell me
The Ex (3:45:07 PM): except that something tipped you off
The Ex (3:45:11 PM): but you didn't say what that was
ME (3:45:28 PM): Look, don't worry about it... maybe I'll tell you later
The Ex (3:45:44 PM): that's okay, don't worry about it
ME (3:45:49 PM): Im actually dressed for a jog right now anyway...and its getting dark
The Ex (3:45:57 PM): alright
ME (3:45:58 PM): enjoy the bunny day
ME (3:45:59 PM): cya
ME (3:46:19 PM): and stop liking me
The Ex (3:46:24 PM): i don't.
The Ex (3:46:28 PM): i don't dislike you
ME (3:46:30 PM): now you're a liar
The Ex (3:46:42 PM): i'm seeing someone
ME (3:46:47 PM): doesn't matter
The Ex (3:47:17 PM): i suppose that's true, but i don't have an interest in dating you again, and i don't think about you daily, i am reminded of you when i see you sn
The Ex (3:47:21 PM): so i imed you to see how you were doing
The Ex (3:47:33 PM): how would you define liking a person?
The Ex (3:47:40 PM): i don't masturbate thinking about you
ME (3:47:45 PM): Wow.
The Ex (3:48:04 PM): well, i mean, i just don't understand why you think i like you
The Ex (3:48:10 PM): i IM random people all the time
ME (3:48:13 PM): Because you do
The Ex (3:48:16 PM): call ex boyfriends all the time
The Ex (3:48:26 PM): if you think i like you, that's fine
ME (3:48:27 PM): I don't care.
The Ex (3:48:34 PM): nothing i say will make you think any differently
ME (3:48:49 PM): No, that all just proves my point even more.
The Ex (3:48:54 PM): i think the fact that you imed me saying that suggests you like me, or that you're bitter
ME (3:49:02 PM): Nope, not at all.
The Ex (3:49:10 PM): because i didn't give you any reason to believe that i do. it's a bit arrogant of you to assume you know that.
ME (3:49:19 PM): Why would I be bitter?
The Ex (3:49:36 PM): because you said we can work it out or stop talking, and i didn't have an interest in getting back together
ME (3:49:40 PM): It's not arrogance...it's called being right
The Ex (3:49:51 PM): but there's no way you can know that
ME (3:50:09 PM): If I wanted to work it out, I would've come back to NC.
The Ex (3:50:10 PM): assume you're in my position, and you don't like you, i mean what do you say?
ME (3:50:18 PM): Huh?
The Ex (3:50:35 PM): like you're me, and you really don't like you
The Ex (3:50:42 PM): what do you say?
ME (3:50:46 PM): Nothing.
ME (3:50:49 PM): You move on.
The Ex (3:51:01 PM): i didn't deny it, i said nothing
ME (3:51:04 PM): That's why I don't talk to you.
The Ex (3:51:18 PM): but lets assume you're interested in talking to the person, even though you don't like them
ME (3:51:25 PM): I wouldn't
ME (3:51:32 PM): I don't talk to people I don't like
The Ex (3:51:41 PM): well that's where we're different, bc i call people i don't like all the time
ME (3:51:41 PM): Exactly, you're interested...you like me
ME (3:51:43 PM): See?
The Ex (3:52:05 PM): huh, well i guess if that's how you define liking a person, but i'm interested in talking to a lot of people that i don't like as more than friedns
The Ex (3:52:18 PM): i hang out with guys i don't like as more than friends
ME (3:52:28 PM): Exactly...cause you love attention
The Ex (3:52:55 PM): sometimes it's for attention, sometimes it's bc i enjoy being with them bc they're good friends
The Ex (3:52:58 PM): and interesting to talk to
The Ex (3:53:09 PM): i haven't spoken to dan in months
ME (3:53:14 PM): No. You just love the attention.
ME (3:53:33 PM): And he used to be your "best" friend
ME (3:53:38 PM): Great friendship.
The Ex (3:53:58 PM): friendships end sometimes
ME (3:54:13 PM): Very true. Like ours.
ME (3:54:17 PM): Strong ones last.
ME (3:54:22 PM): Between good people.
The Ex (3:54:38 PM): how do you know i just love the attention from my guys friends? one of my guy friends is desparately in love with another girl, and is not interested in me
The Ex (3:54:52 PM): but we're still good friends, and enjoy talking
The Ex (3:54:57 PM): and he knows i'm seeing someone
ME (3:55:23 PM): That's great. I'm sure you have some great "deep" conversations.
The Ex (3:55:23 PM): but i guess i often call ex boyfriends for attention
The Ex (3:55:27 PM): but i don't like them
ME (3:55:34 PM): You're ambivalent.
ME (3:55:43 PM): Do yoga or something.
The Ex (3:56:00 PM): i do yoga at body check
ME (3:56:08 PM): That's great!
ME (3:56:34 PM): Now, just work on being able to have a conversation without just repeating something that was spoonfed to you
ME (3:57:00 PM): It might be good for you to take some classes that are more socratic
The Ex (3:58:16 PM): okay michael, i'll do that
The Ex (3:58:30 PM): someone in my family passed away recently
ME (3:58:37 PM): Who?
The Ex (3:58:44 PM): i'm sure you'll say something sarcastic, though
ME (3:58:59 PM): I'm guessing it's Tiger then
The Ex (3:59:20 PM): he did, and someone else
The Ex (3:59:26 PM): please don't say anything mean
ME (3:59:33 PM): Im not mean.
The Ex (3:59:51 PM): you could still say something mean, or sarcastic
ME (4:00:09 PM): I havent been sarcastic with you at all
ME (4:00:14 PM): In this conversation.
ME (4:00:22 PM): Since when is honesty sarcastic?
The Ex (4:00:34 PM): ME (3:54:48 PM): That's great. I'm sure you have some great "deep" conversations.
ME (4:00:47 PM): Ok, one line
The Ex (4:00:53 PM): "that's great!"
The Ex (4:00:56 PM): about the yoga
The Ex (4:00:59 PM): had a hint a sarcasm
ME (4:01:12 PM): No, it's good for you
The Ex (4:01:15 PM): ME (3:52:58 PM): And he used to be your "best" friend
ME (3:53:04 PM): Great friendship.
ME (4:01:47 PM): Hmmm, maybe my "haven't been sarcastic" comment was sarcastic? haha
ME (4:02:32 PM): Does your facebook still say single?
The Ex (4:04:56 PM): but michael, i imed you because i was curious to see how you're doing. maybe you only IM ppl you like, but i IM ppl i like, don't like, and everything in between. but i don't think of you often since i don't see or talk to you, and i don't feel an attraction to you. i feel like i have the right to make my case, and you might say the fact i'm making it proves your point even more
The Ex (4:05:02 PM): but it seems like no matter what i did
The Ex (4:05:07 PM): you would say it proved your point
The Ex (4:05:17 PM): you're going to believe what you want to believe
ME (4:05:27 PM): No, Im going to believe the truth.
The Ex (4:05:36 PM): but it's frustrating when i had one motive and you accuse me of something else
The Ex (4:05:47 PM): but that's so close minded and pretentious
The Ex (4:05:54 PM): how can you possibly know the truth?
The Ex (4:05:56 PM): you're not me
ME (4:06:09 PM): It's called decisiveness
The Ex (4:06:15 PM): you have to recognize you could be wrong'
ME (4:06:21 PM): Not about this.
The Ex (4:06:45 PM): i don't know whether or not aliens exist
The Ex (4:06:51 PM): does that make me indecisive?
The Ex (4:06:56 PM): because i cannot decide on the truth?
The Ex (4:07:17 PM): what do you mean by like?
The Ex (4:07:26 PM): you think im attracted to you? that i want to be your girlfriend?
ME (4:07:27 PM): You never answered me
The Ex (4:07:29 PM): i mean what are you takling about?
The Ex (4:07:34 PM): what was your question
ME (4:07:43 PM): Is your facebook still listing you as single?
The Ex (4:08:33 PM): i think so, either that or nothing
The Ex (4:08:35 PM): can you see it?
The Ex (4:08:38 PM): what does it say?
ME (4:08:40 PM): I dont know
ME (4:09:06 PM): Well, if it does its just more proof that this new relationship means the same as ours
ME (4:09:11 PM): absolutely nothing to you
ME (4:09:30 PM): But, for some reason, you still like me.
The Ex (4:09:51 PM): it says nothing
The Ex (4:09:58 PM): we've just recently started seeing each other
The Ex (4:10:02 PM): we started out as friends
The Ex (4:10:13 PM): his facebook says he's married to one of his friends who's a girl
The Ex (4:10:56 PM): our relationship meant nothing to you, not the other way around. i feel like you're twisting everything
The Ex (4:11:05 PM): you have this delusion that is completely false
The Ex (4:11:11 PM): and nothing i say can convince you otherwise
ME (4:11:16 PM): You meant nothing to me?
The Ex (4:11:23 PM): i got that impression
The Ex (4:11:26 PM): but i don't know
The Ex (4:11:39 PM): i'm not going to assume i know you better than you know yourself
ME (4:12:15 PM): Fine, valid.
ME (4:12:24 PM): Jog time.
ME (4:12:26 PM): lata gata
The Ex went away at 4:13:59 PM.
ME (5:17:12 PM): Just don't be scared.
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Auto Response from The Ex (5:17:13 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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The Ex (5:17:40 PM): huh?
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Auto Response from ME (5:17:40 PM): It's too easy.
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ME (5:18:00 PM): when i went for my jog i was thinking about this
The Ex (5:18:07 PM): okay
The Ex (5:18:09 PM): i'd like to hear
ME (5:18:45 PM): We did drift apart because I didn't think you were beautiful anymore... I've always found you attractive, but it just wore off
ME (5:18:57 PM): Now, don't try to analyze this...and think I'm bitter
ME (5:18:58 PM): or mean
ME (5:19:19 PM): I'm being honest...and upfront...because I'm sick of how I was
ME (5:19:32 PM): You greatest fear in life is being ordinary
ME (5:19:36 PM): being unnoticed
ME (5:19:38 PM): blending in
ME (5:19:52 PM): So, you make up for it with outlandishness and this need for attention
ME (5:20:03 PM): clothes, car, cell phone, the way you talk...everything
The Ex (5:20:12 PM): why do you need to tell me this? i thought you didn't want to talk to me anymore
ME (5:20:24 PM): If you would just TRULY believe in yourself, you'd be a lot better off
ME (5:20:51 PM): Because I say what's on my mind
The Ex (5:21:35 PM): we drifited apart because you didn't find me beautiful anymore? that's what our relationship was about? my beauty?
ME (5:21:50 PM): Again, you're so focused on physicalities
The Ex (5:21:51 PM): and when i was no longer beautiful to you
The Ex (5:21:57 PM): it didn't matter?
ME (5:21:59 PM): Did you even read what I wrote?
The Ex (5:22:05 PM): you're the one who said that, not me
ME (5:22:21 PM): I said, I always found you attractive...but you didn't
ME (5:22:32 PM): and someone who doesn't think they are beautiful...isn't
ME (5:22:51 PM): Someone who constantly need affirmation and attention and praise is just lying to themselves
ME (5:23:28 PM): I'm self affirming. I provide attention to myself. And I'm proud of who I am and what I do.
The Ex (5:23:37 PM): oh okay. so you no longer found me beautiful because you thought i needed to much reassurance and didn't have self confidence
The Ex (5:23:48 PM): mhmm okay
ME (5:23:56 PM): Not thought...I know
ME (5:24:03 PM): You can't even stand in front of a mirror
ME (5:24:41 PM): Just take it for what it's worth.
ME (5:25:27 PM): Other people notice it too...and that bugs me.
ME (5:25:40 PM): Because I see you for who you can and should be...and you're not that person
The Ex (5:25:49 PM): well you didn't tell me that's why we drifted apart before.
The Ex (5:25:52 PM): thanks i appreciate that
ME (5:26:06 PM): You're welcome.
The Ex (5:26:40 PM): i thought you wanted to work things out toward the end. now you're saying we drifted apart
The Ex (5:26:51 PM): i didn't notice us drifting apart, or i didn't notice it on your side
The Ex (5:26:55 PM): you said you wanted to work things out
The Ex (5:27:01 PM): it seems like you're changing the past
ME (5:27:10 PM): Well, you must've been blinded by something
ME (5:27:17 PM): Or too focused on your own stuff.
ME (5:27:24 PM): It's fine...it's in the past.
The Ex (5:27:28 PM): and no matter how hard you try to convince yourself you know everything, and that you know me, you don't necessarily, and it's important to acknowledge that
The Ex (5:27:40 PM): you said you wanted to work things out
The Ex (5:27:44 PM): and i didn't
The Ex (5:27:54 PM): at the beginning you treated me worse than you ever did
ME (5:27:55 PM): We both were lying
The Ex (5:28:06 PM): i wasn't lying
ME (5:28:20 PM): I mean Ashley, you're sweet and everything...but what makes you stand out?
The Ex (5:28:31 PM): i had no interest in getting back together with you
The Ex (5:28:37 PM): what are you trying to do, michael?
ME (5:28:58 PM): Nothing...just talking.
ME (5:29:02 PM): I don't have a motive.
The Ex (5:29:08 PM): then go away, please
The Ex signed off at 5:29:19 PM.
The Ex is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
The Ex (5:31:00 PM): oh and it was my mother
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Auto Response from ME (5:31:01 PM): It's too easy.
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The Ex (5:31:07 PM): i thought i'd tell you
ME (5:31:16 PM): your mother what?
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Auto Response from The Ex (5:31:16 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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The Ex (5:31:29 PM): she's gone
The Ex (5:31:34 PM): i dont' want to talk about it
The Ex (5:31:43 PM): tiger is too
ME (5:31:49 PM): Your mother passed away?
The Ex (5:32:02 PM): yeah
The Ex (5:32:06 PM): don't say something sarcastic
ME (5:32:10 PM): Are you serious?
ME (5:32:21 PM): No, Im seriously sorry to hear that...I loved your mom
The Ex (5:33:07 PM): why are you saying all these things to me?
ME (5:33:21 PM): Hold on...are you lying to me about your mom?
The Ex (5:33:46 PM): no
ME (5:33:53 PM): Whend it happen?
The Ex (5:34:24 PM): a month ago
The Ex (5:34:39 PM): tiger died right before spring break
ME (5:34:46 PM): How?
ME (5:35:14 PM): I just told my mom...both of us are in shock.
ME (5:35:54 PM): Maybe I'll send your family some flowers then. That really is sad.
The Ex (5:36:02 PM): okay
The Ex (5:36:13 PM): you hurt my feelings
The Ex (5:36:20 PM): was it intentional
ME (5:36:31 PM): No, and I'm not sorry I did.
ME (5:36:34 PM): I meant what I said.
ME (5:36:41 PM): And, I believe it to be the truth.
The Ex (5:36:53 PM): i know you can't be completely right
The Ex (5:37:02 PM): because i know some things you said weren't true
The Ex (5:37:15 PM): some things i don't think are true, but could be
ME (5:37:37 PM): Don't worry about it.
The Ex (5:38:16 PM): you lied and said you wanted to work things out when you didn't?
ME (5:38:18 PM): How come no one said anything on your facebook...like "oh im sorry to hear what happened"
ME (5:38:32 PM): I dont like being lied to.
The Ex (5:38:36 PM): are you accusing me of lying"?
The Ex (5:38:39 PM): what the fuck michael
ME (5:38:48 PM): I'm in shock.
The Ex (5:39:58 PM): you said you lied to me
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Auto Response from ME (5:40:00 PM): It's too easy.
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The Ex (5:41:06 PM): are you there
The Ex (5:41:26 PM): do you want to talk to my dad?
The Ex (5:44:04 PM): he'll call you
The Ex (5:55:28 PM): do want him to call? let me know
The Ex (6:30:40 PM): you were kind of insensitive. i have been kind of depressed recently. do you want to know any more about what happened?
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Saturday, November 17, 2007
Honestly, how does this only have 50 views?
I thought this was unbelievable...check it out... NYC acappella.
Tuesday, November 6, 2007
Kidney anyone? (PIC)
So apparently eBay let's you skip that whole indexing wait game cycle thing if you're selling something in high demand.
Kinda like my left kidney...
Clicking makes it bigger!
Kinda like my left kidney...
Clicking makes it bigger!
Saturday, November 3, 2007
eBay is BS'ing us! PROOF! PIC!
I'm not sure if you all are aware, but eBay claims that listings go through an "indexing cycle" before they are searchable. They claim it's for Trust and Safety reasons--> See here
Now, that's all well and good, but why does it take so long? I've listed about 30 items in the past two weeks and none have indexed in under four hours. NONE.
This is not a rant. I found out that they're just blatantly lying. Feeling curious, I went and questioned one of their Live Help reps after something very interesting happened. What happened? Well, I decided that I wanted to move a laptop I'm selling from my eBay store and list it as a Buy It Now item. I was experimenting with settings, so I wanted to list it in the future...tomorrow. Well, I did and a paid an extra dime to do that. But, when I was looking at it in the scheduler, I noticed I entered the wrong date. I didn't choose this Sunday, but I instead chose NEXT Sunday. So, I went back and fixed it, but changed it to start in 15 minutes.
Low and behold, my laptop showed up immediately. NO indexing delay. NONE.
Wow, this must be a miracle! Oh, but then I remembered that it's 2007 and not 1997.
Anyway, I went over to Live Help and asked about the process. They claim that it's an automated process and does not involve manually checking each listing. So, what's the issue?
I gave it another go. I wanted to make sure I wasn't just a witness to an eBay miracle.
I decided to list a "Bic Mechanical pencil" but this time I chose to purposely list it way in the future using the scheduled listing feature. I then went back and immediately revised the listing to start at the next available slot...10 minutes later.
Guess what happened after 10 minutes? My pencil listing was immediately searchable! So eBay stop cheating us! Stop stealing our listing time!
And here are pics to prove it-->
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