Ever go out with someone...they break up with you...but then they keep talking to you.
Well, I had not talked to my ex girlfriend in a month, and then she decides to contact me on Easter. So I reply with "It's not good that you still like me."
And the craziness ensues. I will explain later.
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The Ex (3:09:39 PM): hey
The Ex (3:09:40 PM): what?
The Ex (3:09:42 PM): how are you?
ME (3:09:58 PM): great
ME (3:10:04 PM): i was clear
The Ex (3:11:03 PM): it's not that i didn't understand you, i was just kind of surprised that you said that, or confused
The Ex (3:11:16 PM): happy easter
ME (3:11:38 PM): it was meant to be the opposite
The Ex (3:11:57 PM): what was meant to be the opposite
ME (3:12:19 PM): look, dont worry about it
The Ex (3:15:01 PM): how's nj? your family?
ME (3:15:24 PM): ugh, ask me something more of substance
ME (3:15:29 PM): its always an interview
The Ex (3:17:53 PM): ...what have you been up to
ME (3:18:00 PM): hahaha
The Ex (3:18:23 PM): i mean, im really wondering. i don't know what else to ask?
ME (3:18:51 PM): have you ever read Notes from Underground?
The Ex (3:19:08 PM): no.
ME (3:19:19 PM): You really should...I'm going to.
ME (3:19:29 PM): It'll finish up your Dostoyevsky obsession
The Ex (3:19:50 PM): im really into some other books now
The Ex (3:20:06 PM): i love the hours, you should read it
The Ex (3:20:17 PM): they made a movie of it
The Ex (3:20:22 PM): and a passage to india
ME (3:20:23 PM): Possibly...I have a list I need to attack first
The Ex (3:22:58 PM): do you plan to come back to wake, or are you thinking of working or transfering somewhere else
ME (3:23:35 PM): Yeah, I worked everything out
The Ex (3:26:27 PM): good
The Ex (3:26:48 PM): i'm transfering to nyu (if i get in), and i'll be in london this summer
ME (3:27:07 PM): thats cool
The Ex went away at 3:32:06 PM.
ME (3:32:17 PM): its funny that you're still indecisive
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Auto Response from The Ex (3:32:18 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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The Ex (3:33:57 PM): about what?
ME (3:34:06 PM): everything
ME (3:34:14 PM): i can understand the still liking me thing
ME (3:34:17 PM): that ones obvious
ME (3:34:27 PM): but everything else just doesnt make sense to me
The Ex (3:35:00 PM): im sorry, what?
The Ex (3:35:04 PM): what are you referring to?
ME (3:35:18 PM): you, obviously
The Ex (3:35:36 PM): no, i meant, what did the "everything else" refer to
ME (3:35:41 PM): YOU
The Ex (3:35:57 PM): im indecisive about myself?
ME (3:36:09 PM): You, life, etc...
ME (3:36:36 PM): It's kinda cute...but you probably should outgrow that
The Ex (3:38:34 PM): wait, what did i do to indicate that i'm still indecisive, or gave you evidence that i am now, like you thought i was before (since you said it's funny that i still am)
ME (3:38:50 PM): I just know you
ME (3:39:02 PM): and you said some things to tip me off
The Ex (3:39:15 PM): tip you off?
The Ex (3:39:19 PM): what does that mean?
The Ex (3:39:22 PM): piss you off?
The Ex (3:39:28 PM): or made you believe i'm indecisive?
ME (3:39:30 PM): Pissed? Im not angry
The Ex (3:39:36 PM): i wasn't sure what the words meant
The Ex (3:39:41 PM): i'm not familiar with that expression
ME (3:39:52 PM): tip you off...indicated
ME (3:40:21 PM): The fact that you didnt just say "I am decisive" or "You're wrong" is more support anyway
The Ex (3:40:50 PM): huh
The Ex (3:40:57 PM): no, but i mean what made you said it to begin with
The Ex (3:41:11 PM): was it a test?
ME (3:41:25 PM): See, since you're interested...it's just more proof...and you're more worried
ME (3:41:27 PM): nothing's a test
The Ex (3:41:34 PM): i didn't say "you're wrong" because i'm not interested in proving you wrong or trying to get in an argument
The Ex (3:41:42 PM): im not worried
ME (3:41:53 PM): Haha ok that's fine
The Ex (3:42:09 PM): im just not interested in arguing, i don't feel the need to prove you wrong or agree w you
The Ex (3:42:26 PM): i just wanted to hear where you were coming from
The Ex (3:42:29 PM): so i could understand what you meant
The Ex (3:42:38 PM): but you haven't told me where you're coming from
ME (3:42:45 PM): And, you're instead tacitly agreeing with me
The Ex (3:42:59 PM): no i'm not
The Ex (3:43:12 PM): this is what i don't want, to disagree w you
The Ex (3:43:17 PM): i really just want to know where you're coming from
The Ex (3:43:33 PM): and if i say nothing, you accuse me of agreeing w you, so i'm forced to disagree w you, which i don't feel like doing
ME (3:43:54 PM): That's fine... disagreement is healthy anyway...cause you could've just presented your side and it wouldve lead to a discussion
The Ex (3:44:18 PM): i can't present my side
The Ex (3:44:21 PM): w/o your side
The Ex (3:44:30 PM): for some reason, you won't tell me what you're talking about
The Ex (3:44:40 PM): i can't disagree with you when i don't know what you're talking about
ME (3:44:40 PM): I was incredibly clear
The Ex (3:44:46 PM): no
The Ex (3:44:54 PM): i asked, what made you say it to begin with
The Ex (3:45:00 PM): and you have yet to tell me
The Ex (3:45:07 PM): except that something tipped you off
The Ex (3:45:11 PM): but you didn't say what that was
ME (3:45:28 PM): Look, don't worry about it... maybe I'll tell you later
The Ex (3:45:44 PM): that's okay, don't worry about it
ME (3:45:49 PM): Im actually dressed for a jog right now anyway...and its getting dark
The Ex (3:45:57 PM): alright
ME (3:45:58 PM): enjoy the bunny day
ME (3:45:59 PM): cya
ME (3:46:19 PM): and stop liking me
The Ex (3:46:24 PM): i don't.
The Ex (3:46:28 PM): i don't dislike you
ME (3:46:30 PM): now you're a liar
The Ex (3:46:42 PM): i'm seeing someone
ME (3:46:47 PM): doesn't matter
The Ex (3:47:17 PM): i suppose that's true, but i don't have an interest in dating you again, and i don't think about you daily, i am reminded of you when i see you sn
The Ex (3:47:21 PM): so i imed you to see how you were doing
The Ex (3:47:33 PM): how would you define liking a person?
The Ex (3:47:40 PM): i don't masturbate thinking about you
ME (3:47:45 PM): Wow.
The Ex (3:48:04 PM): well, i mean, i just don't understand why you think i like you
The Ex (3:48:10 PM): i IM random people all the time
ME (3:48:13 PM): Because you do
The Ex (3:48:16 PM): call ex boyfriends all the time
The Ex (3:48:26 PM): if you think i like you, that's fine
ME (3:48:27 PM): I don't care.
The Ex (3:48:34 PM): nothing i say will make you think any differently
ME (3:48:49 PM): No, that all just proves my point even more.
The Ex (3:48:54 PM): i think the fact that you imed me saying that suggests you like me, or that you're bitter
ME (3:49:02 PM): Nope, not at all.
The Ex (3:49:10 PM): because i didn't give you any reason to believe that i do. it's a bit arrogant of you to assume you know that.
ME (3:49:19 PM): Why would I be bitter?
The Ex (3:49:36 PM): because you said we can work it out or stop talking, and i didn't have an interest in getting back together
ME (3:49:40 PM): It's not arrogance...it's called being right
The Ex (3:49:51 PM): but there's no way you can know that
ME (3:50:09 PM): If I wanted to work it out, I would've come back to NC.
The Ex (3:50:10 PM): assume you're in my position, and you don't like you, i mean what do you say?
ME (3:50:18 PM): Huh?
The Ex (3:50:35 PM): like you're me, and you really don't like you
The Ex (3:50:42 PM): what do you say?
ME (3:50:46 PM): Nothing.
ME (3:50:49 PM): You move on.
The Ex (3:51:01 PM): i didn't deny it, i said nothing
ME (3:51:04 PM): That's why I don't talk to you.
The Ex (3:51:18 PM): but lets assume you're interested in talking to the person, even though you don't like them
ME (3:51:25 PM): I wouldn't
ME (3:51:32 PM): I don't talk to people I don't like
The Ex (3:51:41 PM): well that's where we're different, bc i call people i don't like all the time
ME (3:51:41 PM): Exactly, you're interested...you like me
ME (3:51:43 PM): See?
The Ex (3:52:05 PM): huh, well i guess if that's how you define liking a person, but i'm interested in talking to a lot of people that i don't like as more than friedns
The Ex (3:52:18 PM): i hang out with guys i don't like as more than friends
ME (3:52:28 PM): Exactly...cause you love attention
The Ex (3:52:55 PM): sometimes it's for attention, sometimes it's bc i enjoy being with them bc they're good friends
The Ex (3:52:58 PM): and interesting to talk to
The Ex (3:53:09 PM): i haven't spoken to dan in months
ME (3:53:14 PM): No. You just love the attention.
ME (3:53:33 PM): And he used to be your "best" friend
ME (3:53:38 PM): Great friendship.
The Ex (3:53:58 PM): friendships end sometimes
ME (3:54:13 PM): Very true. Like ours.
ME (3:54:17 PM): Strong ones last.
ME (3:54:22 PM): Between good people.
The Ex (3:54:38 PM): how do you know i just love the attention from my guys friends? one of my guy friends is desparately in love with another girl, and is not interested in me
The Ex (3:54:52 PM): but we're still good friends, and enjoy talking
The Ex (3:54:57 PM): and he knows i'm seeing someone
ME (3:55:23 PM): That's great. I'm sure you have some great "deep" conversations.
The Ex (3:55:23 PM): but i guess i often call ex boyfriends for attention
The Ex (3:55:27 PM): but i don't like them
ME (3:55:34 PM): You're ambivalent.
ME (3:55:43 PM): Do yoga or something.
The Ex (3:56:00 PM): i do yoga at body check
ME (3:56:08 PM): That's great!
ME (3:56:34 PM): Now, just work on being able to have a conversation without just repeating something that was spoonfed to you
ME (3:57:00 PM): It might be good for you to take some classes that are more socratic
The Ex (3:58:16 PM): okay michael, i'll do that
The Ex (3:58:30 PM): someone in my family passed away recently
ME (3:58:37 PM): Who?
The Ex (3:58:44 PM): i'm sure you'll say something sarcastic, though
ME (3:58:59 PM): I'm guessing it's Tiger then
The Ex (3:59:20 PM): he did, and someone else
The Ex (3:59:26 PM): please don't say anything mean
ME (3:59:33 PM): Im not mean.
The Ex (3:59:51 PM): you could still say something mean, or sarcastic
ME (4:00:09 PM): I havent been sarcastic with you at all
ME (4:00:14 PM): In this conversation.
ME (4:00:22 PM): Since when is honesty sarcastic?
The Ex (4:00:34 PM): ME (3:54:48 PM): That's great. I'm sure you have some great "deep" conversations.
ME (4:00:47 PM): Ok, one line
The Ex (4:00:53 PM): "that's great!"
The Ex (4:00:56 PM): about the yoga
The Ex (4:00:59 PM): had a hint a sarcasm
ME (4:01:12 PM): No, it's good for you
The Ex (4:01:15 PM): ME (3:52:58 PM): And he used to be your "best" friend
ME (3:53:04 PM): Great friendship.
ME (4:01:47 PM): Hmmm, maybe my "haven't been sarcastic" comment was sarcastic? haha
ME (4:02:32 PM): Does your facebook still say single?
The Ex (4:04:56 PM): but michael, i imed you because i was curious to see how you're doing. maybe you only IM ppl you like, but i IM ppl i like, don't like, and everything in between. but i don't think of you often since i don't see or talk to you, and i don't feel an attraction to you. i feel like i have the right to make my case, and you might say the fact i'm making it proves your point even more
The Ex (4:05:02 PM): but it seems like no matter what i did
The Ex (4:05:07 PM): you would say it proved your point
The Ex (4:05:17 PM): you're going to believe what you want to believe
ME (4:05:27 PM): No, Im going to believe the truth.
The Ex (4:05:36 PM): but it's frustrating when i had one motive and you accuse me of something else
The Ex (4:05:47 PM): but that's so close minded and pretentious
The Ex (4:05:54 PM): how can you possibly know the truth?
The Ex (4:05:56 PM): you're not me
ME (4:06:09 PM): It's called decisiveness
The Ex (4:06:15 PM): you have to recognize you could be wrong'
ME (4:06:21 PM): Not about this.
The Ex (4:06:45 PM): i don't know whether or not aliens exist
The Ex (4:06:51 PM): does that make me indecisive?
The Ex (4:06:56 PM): because i cannot decide on the truth?
The Ex (4:07:17 PM): what do you mean by like?
The Ex (4:07:26 PM): you think im attracted to you? that i want to be your girlfriend?
ME (4:07:27 PM): You never answered me
The Ex (4:07:29 PM): i mean what are you takling about?
The Ex (4:07:34 PM): what was your question
ME (4:07:43 PM): Is your facebook still listing you as single?
The Ex (4:08:33 PM): i think so, either that or nothing
The Ex (4:08:35 PM): can you see it?
The Ex (4:08:38 PM): what does it say?
ME (4:08:40 PM): I dont know
ME (4:09:06 PM): Well, if it does its just more proof that this new relationship means the same as ours
ME (4:09:11 PM): absolutely nothing to you
ME (4:09:30 PM): But, for some reason, you still like me.
The Ex (4:09:51 PM): it says nothing
The Ex (4:09:58 PM): we've just recently started seeing each other
The Ex (4:10:02 PM): we started out as friends
The Ex (4:10:13 PM): his facebook says he's married to one of his friends who's a girl
The Ex (4:10:56 PM): our relationship meant nothing to you, not the other way around. i feel like you're twisting everything
The Ex (4:11:05 PM): you have this delusion that is completely false
The Ex (4:11:11 PM): and nothing i say can convince you otherwise
ME (4:11:16 PM): You meant nothing to me?
The Ex (4:11:23 PM): i got that impression
The Ex (4:11:26 PM): but i don't know
The Ex (4:11:39 PM): i'm not going to assume i know you better than you know yourself
ME (4:12:15 PM): Fine, valid.
ME (4:12:24 PM): Jog time.
ME (4:12:26 PM): lata gata
The Ex went away at 4:13:59 PM.
ME (5:17:12 PM): Just don't be scared.
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Auto Response from The Ex (5:17:13 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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The Ex (5:17:40 PM): huh?
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Auto Response from ME (5:17:40 PM): It's too easy.
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ME (5:18:00 PM): when i went for my jog i was thinking about this
The Ex (5:18:07 PM): okay
The Ex (5:18:09 PM): i'd like to hear
ME (5:18:45 PM): We did drift apart because I didn't think you were beautiful anymore... I've always found you attractive, but it just wore off
ME (5:18:57 PM): Now, don't try to analyze this...and think I'm bitter
ME (5:18:58 PM): or mean
ME (5:19:19 PM): I'm being honest...and upfront...because I'm sick of how I was
ME (5:19:32 PM): You greatest fear in life is being ordinary
ME (5:19:36 PM): being unnoticed
ME (5:19:38 PM): blending in
ME (5:19:52 PM): So, you make up for it with outlandishness and this need for attention
ME (5:20:03 PM): clothes, car, cell phone, the way you talk...everything
The Ex (5:20:12 PM): why do you need to tell me this? i thought you didn't want to talk to me anymore
ME (5:20:24 PM): If you would just TRULY believe in yourself, you'd be a lot better off
ME (5:20:51 PM): Because I say what's on my mind
The Ex (5:21:35 PM): we drifited apart because you didn't find me beautiful anymore? that's what our relationship was about? my beauty?
ME (5:21:50 PM): Again, you're so focused on physicalities
The Ex (5:21:51 PM): and when i was no longer beautiful to you
The Ex (5:21:57 PM): it didn't matter?
ME (5:21:59 PM): Did you even read what I wrote?
The Ex (5:22:05 PM): you're the one who said that, not me
ME (5:22:21 PM): I said, I always found you attractive...but you didn't
ME (5:22:32 PM): and someone who doesn't think they are beautiful...isn't
ME (5:22:51 PM): Someone who constantly need affirmation and attention and praise is just lying to themselves
ME (5:23:28 PM): I'm self affirming. I provide attention to myself. And I'm proud of who I am and what I do.
The Ex (5:23:37 PM): oh okay. so you no longer found me beautiful because you thought i needed to much reassurance and didn't have self confidence
The Ex (5:23:48 PM): mhmm okay
ME (5:23:56 PM): Not thought...I know
ME (5:24:03 PM): You can't even stand in front of a mirror
ME (5:24:41 PM): Just take it for what it's worth.
ME (5:25:27 PM): Other people notice it too...and that bugs me.
ME (5:25:40 PM): Because I see you for who you can and should be...and you're not that person
The Ex (5:25:49 PM): well you didn't tell me that's why we drifted apart before.
The Ex (5:25:52 PM): thanks i appreciate that
ME (5:26:06 PM): You're welcome.
The Ex (5:26:40 PM): i thought you wanted to work things out toward the end. now you're saying we drifted apart
The Ex (5:26:51 PM): i didn't notice us drifting apart, or i didn't notice it on your side
The Ex (5:26:55 PM): you said you wanted to work things out
The Ex (5:27:01 PM): it seems like you're changing the past
ME (5:27:10 PM): Well, you must've been blinded by something
ME (5:27:17 PM): Or too focused on your own stuff.
ME (5:27:24 PM): It's fine...it's in the past.
The Ex (5:27:28 PM): and no matter how hard you try to convince yourself you know everything, and that you know me, you don't necessarily, and it's important to acknowledge that
The Ex (5:27:40 PM): you said you wanted to work things out
The Ex (5:27:44 PM): and i didn't
The Ex (5:27:54 PM): at the beginning you treated me worse than you ever did
ME (5:27:55 PM): We both were lying
The Ex (5:28:06 PM): i wasn't lying
ME (5:28:20 PM): I mean Ashley, you're sweet and everything...but what makes you stand out?
The Ex (5:28:31 PM): i had no interest in getting back together with you
The Ex (5:28:37 PM): what are you trying to do, michael?
ME (5:28:58 PM): Nothing...just talking.
ME (5:29:02 PM): I don't have a motive.
The Ex (5:29:08 PM): then go away, please
The Ex signed off at 5:29:19 PM.
The Ex is offline and will receive your IMs when signing back in.
The Ex (5:31:00 PM): oh and it was my mother
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Auto Response from ME (5:31:01 PM): It's too easy.
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The Ex (5:31:07 PM): i thought i'd tell you
ME (5:31:16 PM): your mother what?
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Auto Response from The Ex (5:31:16 PM): I am away from my computer right now.
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The Ex (5:31:29 PM): she's gone
The Ex (5:31:34 PM): i dont' want to talk about it
The Ex (5:31:43 PM): tiger is too
ME (5:31:49 PM): Your mother passed away?
The Ex (5:32:02 PM): yeah
The Ex (5:32:06 PM): don't say something sarcastic
ME (5:32:10 PM): Are you serious?
ME (5:32:21 PM): No, Im seriously sorry to hear that...I loved your mom
The Ex (5:33:07 PM): why are you saying all these things to me?
ME (5:33:21 PM): Hold on...are you lying to me about your mom?
The Ex (5:33:46 PM): no
ME (5:33:53 PM): Whend it happen?
The Ex (5:34:24 PM): a month ago
The Ex (5:34:39 PM): tiger died right before spring break
ME (5:34:46 PM): How?
ME (5:35:14 PM): I just told my mom...both of us are in shock.
ME (5:35:54 PM): Maybe I'll send your family some flowers then. That really is sad.
The Ex (5:36:02 PM): okay
The Ex (5:36:13 PM): you hurt my feelings
The Ex (5:36:20 PM): was it intentional
ME (5:36:31 PM): No, and I'm not sorry I did.
ME (5:36:34 PM): I meant what I said.
ME (5:36:41 PM): And, I believe it to be the truth.
The Ex (5:36:53 PM): i know you can't be completely right
The Ex (5:37:02 PM): because i know some things you said weren't true
The Ex (5:37:15 PM): some things i don't think are true, but could be
ME (5:37:37 PM): Don't worry about it.
The Ex (5:38:16 PM): you lied and said you wanted to work things out when you didn't?
ME (5:38:18 PM): How come no one said anything on your facebook...like "oh im sorry to hear what happened"
ME (5:38:32 PM): I dont like being lied to.
The Ex (5:38:36 PM): are you accusing me of lying"?
The Ex (5:38:39 PM): what the fuck michael
ME (5:38:48 PM): I'm in shock.
The Ex (5:39:58 PM): you said you lied to me
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Auto Response from ME (5:40:00 PM): It's too easy.
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The Ex (5:41:06 PM): are you there
The Ex (5:41:26 PM): do you want to talk to my dad?
The Ex (5:44:04 PM): he'll call you
The Ex (5:55:28 PM): do want him to call? let me know
The Ex (6:30:40 PM): you were kind of insensitive. i have been kind of depressed recently. do you want to know any more about what happened?
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